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When I wrote my retweet, I thought a while about whether I should reference that tweet or the one below it which includes "that kind dynamic with senior engineers might be called toxic" @polotek/1290388917082968064Permalink
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I decided to reference the tweet I did because I wanted to emphasize that Marco getting things wrong after reading a book is not unique to him and that getting benefit from someone telling him he's wrong is not unique to him either.Permalink
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I read early in the thread I quote retweeted: "I still had to take ownership of my own learning and be responsible for growing quickly" and later: "that kind dynamic with senior engineers might be called toxic"Permalink
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I didn't read into this whether his experience was toxic or not. What mattered most to me was that I agreed with "take ownership", "be responsible", and "might be called toxic"
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I do worry about those who have had, continue to have, or may have toxic experiences. The second part of my tweet was to help people recognize when "getting told you are doing it wrong" is being done in the wrong way. Whether giving or receiving the feedback.Permalink
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In his thread, Marco, went on to describe a better environment for feedback. One where you are around other people getting, presumably, similar things wrong and similar feedback @polotek/1289998015277617154Permalink
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To generalize in the style of my tweet: "the environment within which you are told you are doing it wrong matters" But Marco was not generalizing. I was just moved by his thread and wanted to both agree and expand.Permalink
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What Marco is getting at with the new thread is important, too. And a discussion I'm not ready to take part in. I have more thinking to do. But I do agree that "wrong" itself is nuanced. @polotek/1290459015194062850Permalink
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Here are some choice tweets in the new thread (and related responses) I will sleep on @polotek/1290392405410058240Permalink